Coding Bootcamps Are Out Of Control...

All i got from this is Johnny sins really cares

I will always suggest learning on your own first, but some people can only learn with a laid out curriculum and time table. I teach at a bootcamp (that is completely free) and some people just really learn well in a bootcamp environment plus employment help but there is no way I would recommend a 15k to 30k bootcamp. no way at all. You could literally pay a mentor for one on one training and still come out WAAAAAAAY cheaper than 15k!

Hell even the colleges are basically self taught at this point...

Every type of learning is self learning. You literally cannot transfer knowledge from a teacher to a student. All the teacher can do is guide you to the resources and direct your practice, show you the door. You will have to do the walking, and it doesn't matter how much you pay, you cannot avoid the work.

self taught is the best way today, just make google your best friend for learning

I ALMOST signed up for a bootcamp. I'm still learning but never been more proud to be a self-taught.

Things you pay for at a bootcamp: 1) Alumni network 2) Career Services 3) Accountability/Structure - Peers learning alongside you You can absolutely learn to code for free and should seek out those types of materials. Ask someone to be an accountability partner, ask a bootcamp grad what their schedule/curriculum looked like. I went to a bootcamp, it made sense for me because I was moving across the country and had little to no connections. I think bootcamps have something to offer, but I’m against the high tuition costs for bootcamps and traditional learning in general.

I recently graduated Coding Dojo and I thought it was actually very good. I started self taught but I’m the kind of person who needs a laid out curriculum and a set path on what to learn, and from where I was when I started to where I am now is a lot better. I’m not saying “Oh I’m an expert and have so many jobs lined up” no, not at all. But it did help me elevate my skill level

“During the gold rush its a good time to be in the pick and shovel business” ― Mark Twain

Coding Boot camps are really sus. I tried to apply for one and end up receiving over 20 calls and emails every day to "listen" to the sales pitch for the program. Anything that is that desperate seems very scammy.

I started self taught, then I did an in person code bootcamp that was totally worth it. Connections made helped me get my first job in a covid world. I'd never do an entirely online bootcamp. There was 8 in my cohort. Loads of support.

Not everyone wants to have an isolated experience. I want to have the in person experience to collaborate with my cohort, ask questions then and there, be able to gauge my learning by how others are performing (I believe this will lessen the imposter syndrome) and create relationships that hopefully down the line I can ask questions from. A bootcamp is best for me.

I agree. I paid around 6000 dollars for Code Institute. And I’m regretting it. I learn much more on Udemy or YouTube than I do on their curriculum. But I’m gonna complete the bootcamp anyway since I paid for it.

I just finished App Academy in Nov. The value of the boot camp really is in having 1) someone who knows more than you to ask questions to 2) A community that creates a sense of accountability and others to learn from. There are two ways to pay for things. You can pay with time or you can pay with money. Pay with money. You can’t make more time. A bootcamp will make you more money.

I'm a Lambda alumni, and I can verify that Lambda's curriculum has changed drastically for the past few months compared to when I was in the school, and for the worse in my opinion. I now have a job that pays 140k, but I had a BS in math from a reputable school. Lambda (and coding bootcamps in general) teach web development, but not problem solving. My experience is that for what Lambda offers back in the days, it's worth around 20k, not the 30k that I'm now paying under ISA terms, and certainly not for the recent changes in course curriculum.

Loved my boot camp experience and ended up switching careers! Met great peers and the setting pushed me to work very hard every day to learn! Definitely recommend it if you know you work well in a group setting with peers and don’t want to go through it alone! The structured curriculum and pressure helps too. Don’t feel bad if you want to do it!

I agree with you on some points, but I believe it depends on each individual's personality and learning style. In my case, I was self-taught for 3 years. I learned HTML, CSS, Bootstrap and intermediate JS (no ES6). Then I realized I had been stuck for about a year doing the same silly DOM mini games. I enrolled in a 3K front end bootcamp and after 3 months I was able to build a my first React app and find a job. I don't regret it at all.

The training room is another one to avoid. My partner paid just under 3k and wasn't even worth giving it out for free

My friend attended the coding bootcamp, le wagon, apparently they advertise to be number 1 coding bootcamp. He attended between jan - march 2020 and i can confirm that he still didnt find a job. Maybe due to pandemic but also, what he learned during 9-week was fairly basic. You are not going to learn full stack development in 9 weeks. Also, he didnt leave feedback but i have been told that he was constantly asking for the feedback and to leave 5 star reviews on switchup.

Only Techlead feels like he knows everything as a millionaire ex Google ex Facebook millionaire programmer 😂😉 Great video, we all needed to hear it. 🙌 If you've paid already... All the more reason for you to go hard and earn your money back 👌