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The one thing you skipped about college is that if you are in your 30s or older, there's too much back and forth obtaining your official transcripts from high school and if you're gpa wasn't high enough you will spend at least 2 years taking general ed before you can even touch CS. So it's at least 2 years of pure fluff then the next 4 with more fluff on top of your degree. The whole self taught vs degree assumes the baseline of one just getting out of high school with a solid gpa. The older you get the more difficult the process becomes. As people get older and obtain more experience in the workforce, skills such as communicating and staying on task improve. We actually know what we want. The problem is the process of school. All of that extra crap should be left out if it doesn't pertain to the degree in any fashion. Many people don't do well with that unrelated stuff and it takes up the time that should be spent on the actual focus.
What about diploma.?
i feel like i am going to do self taught and do a BootCamp. i already went to college and graduate school for degrees that arent related to tech but I'm not interested in going back
Is it a good choice for a person who has just graduated from high school to enter a bootcamp rather than college because I don't work well with books and I'm more of a person who learns from practical teaching. Because I have this subject which I did in high-school called Computer Applications Technology (CAT). It is divided into two sections. Theory and Practical In the practical half, we didn't need to study, only practice. I excelled at that, I was the highest in the grade with practical, I even got 116/150 for the final exam However, on the theory side, I didn't do good, that requires you to read and study. I got 52/150, which pulled me to get to 56% for my final mark If it was only practical, I would have gotten 77%, but theory pulled me back University requires you to read and study However bootcamp, you just need to do the work directly which gets you job ready if I'm not mistaken
I know most of java and python i got rejected 3 times from cs college, cs students keep asking me about coding, ive never been to a bootcamp or any it related school, hoping to change studies after first semester of economics.
I may be giving a seriously ignorant distillation, and possibly inaccurate, but it may come down to this: When do you want to expend your resources, now or later? My take on the Degree Path: It may be true that you pay upfront all your time and money in a degree, but, if you don’t land a good paying job then well you have to pay in the long run anyways. So, how intelligent are you, and how well do you have your shit together? If you can finish the degree, can you find a well-paying job? If you’re smart, you can find it; if you have your life together, you can keep it. My take on the Bootcamp Path: This is cramming a lot of information in if you decide to enroll in a 24 or even 16 week course. You have to encode this well into your brain. Plus, what are you doing with that information? If you have a proclivity towards the language of code, sure, you may pick it up faster. That’s good. Now, like he asked, are you going to look for an employer? Competence is recognized little, unless you have some proof of work, like projects you’ve created. That may be well enough as experience. As for the certificates? Idk. Please tell me more about their usefulness. My take on the Self-Taught path: yeah, you need to really want it. If it has nagged at you not because you feel guilty for abandoning this industry, which is continually changing and will leave anyone behind who does not adapt, but feeling the ache in your heart for not giving it more of your attention — since you have a deep inclination towards it — then self-teaching may be a good choice. If it is employment you seek, you compete. If it is a business you create, you could compete with other business people, or you could innovate (but that’s tricky, though if you work hard for it [like you have eyes sinking into your skull and you appear to be living on scraps of food for a diet, then you’re probably working hard enough]). Innovation is hard because it means looking where others have not — you know, we have a lot of people in the world, and we have many of the same ideas. What makes yours different? I think this man’s got it right — it depends on your situation, but more, I think it depends on YOU. You can get into a situation, and you can get out. It’s up to you.
Start a second college degree is nonsense. Go bootcamp. You will have 2 years to gain more experience and knowledge if you work hard.
I am 40 years old work full time and have 2 young kids. I think boot camp might be the way to go to learn fast and not do a GE. Thank you for your insight.
I think being able to teach yourself is important in both cases (bootcamp or degree). At the end of the day, you are the one who is going to be working on projects.
I'm 24 and i don't know what to do.
I’m 30 year old artist working a crap forklift job. I know school will take a long time but it’s better to start now rather than continue to work in these shit jobs for the rest of my life. I want a career in something I’m interested like art or computers and computer degrees get you good money so I’m choosing that. Wish me luck.
6:25 I started a QA Manual Bootcamp a week ago and for now it is kind of boring because we are on the theoreticals. 😅
you look like phil can't help it
Do you still this is is relevant now? In 2023?
I was self-taught, but sadly I joined groups that had elitist attitudes and were always saying ideas couldn't be done or if it was simple for them and their years of programming experience, they would deem you unworthy to be a programmer. That led to me being depressed, I still dabble, but now hear their voices telling me I can't do it and I start to lose motivation on my projects.
I already have my college degree, so I chose a coding bootcamp that's reputable and backed by the Florida department of Education. Took me a year to get a job. But it was the quickest way to switch careers into tech. 😂😅
Internships easy lol I can't pass coding assessment😢
#codingbootcamp though... Greetings
I don't see a lot of people talking about the columbia engineering coding bootcamp, seems like a great credible boot camp that bridges a universities credibility with a boot camps hands on intense technical training but not many people seem to talk about it since they don't seem to be big into sponsorships and marketing to be the number one listed search item, but does anyone have any opiinions on this bootcamp vs others?
There's a sort of coding bootcamp where I am that's free through a government funded program that's supposed to help people get their foot in the door of a bunch of associated companies. I'm considering taking it.