SPONSOR: Learn more about the Wolfbox MF200 and use code 'WOLFBOXMF200' for 19% off! https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FPMPBSLL?maas=maas_adg_FCA3BDEE3CC1B98D2D7A3D625FE6DFD9_afap_abs&ref_=aa_maas&tag=maas Welcome to Fix or Flop, our free computer repair playlist! We're up to Season 7, Episode 19! This viewer's gaming PC is powering off randomly! Can it be fixed? By the way, if you live in the Orlando, FL area and have an issue with your PC, apply to have it (possibly) fixed for free today! https://gregsalazar.com/fix-or-flop Check out other Fix or Flop episodes in this playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyReHG5dDxXXSgTLdfvdzJpFei941MX6H 👉🏼 Subscribe to Salazar's Cars! https://www.youtube.com/@UCqFyeQBBwILpyCODqf8Vdig ⭐ Consider supporting us on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/gregsalazar Lian Li GB-001 Anti-Sag Bracket: https://geni.us/QdJGIYh 🛠️ My troubleshooting gear: Feiasia 1080p Portable Monitor: https://geni.us/mdHaU FLIR C5 Thermal Camera: https://geni.us/3ALEI Skybasic Digital Microscope: https://geni.us/6zurf YIHUA Soldering Station: https://geni.us/DbjS Helping Hand Soldering Board: https://geni.us/7DDrL Xool 80 Precision Tool Set: https://geni.us/1IfxDSw PassMark Inline PSU Tester: https://bit.ly/3BoBHoQ 🧼 My cleaning gear: SYINE Respirator Mask: https://geni.us/V4uA Scott Shop Towels: https://geni.us/rIy5O6Y Electric Air Duster: https://geni.us/RALt4 ONSON Cordless Vacuum: https://geni.us/aABrFWE Medical Grade 99.9% Isopropyl Alcohol: https://geni.us/tBVQ Q-tips Cotton Swabs: https://geni.us/nQhVVQm Xool 80 Precision Tool Set: https://geni.us/1IfxDSw Hizek Black Disposable Gloves: https://geni.us/MBCJaf 🎬 My studio gear on Amazon: Sony FX30 (Primary): https://geni.us/HjHL Sony a7C (Secondary): https://geni.us/SaOeIAL Insta360 Link (Webcam): https://geni.us/nME0rZ 2x Pixio PX27U Wave IPS Monitors: https://geni.us/yB5T3LB Neewer LED Lighting Kit: http://geni.us/9VTXr0 Audio-Technica AT2035: http://geni.us/xvQc Yamaha MG10XU Mixer: http://geni.us/d4VvGM 📱 Follow me on social media: X: http://www.x.com/GregSalazarYT TWITCH: http://www.twitch.tv/GregSalazar FACEBOOK: http://www.facebook.com/GregSalazarYT INSTAGRAM: http://www.instagram.com/GregSalazarYT 💻 Join our public Discord server: https://discord.gg/jYA9Xvp 🎵 Channel music provided by: Monstercat: https://youtube.com/c/monstercat Artlist: https://artlist.io DISCLOSURES: All Genius links are tied to our Amazon Associate account, from which we earn a small sales commission. Links containing a 'bit.ly' reference forwarding to Newegg are tied to our Rakuten account, from which we earn a small sales commission. All sponsored links and comments will contain the word "SPONSOR" or "AD." Any additional revenue stream will be disclosed with similar verbiage. #FixOrFlop
ADVERTISEMENT
I've been working on computers since 1990 and I see it all the time, that's why I always check connectors first, then start unplugging 1 thing at a time. This is why doing this step of troubleshooting is so important
Greg so used to budget motherboards he jumps the pins when it has a power button on the board
Dude some of these systems they could at least clean the shit before giving it to U.
When you think your PSU went into "protect mode," most times it wont turn back on immediately. Some have a timer. 3 - 5 minutes... Others wont turn back on till you unplug or switch off the PSU. (this clears the caps to make it forget that there was a issue that forced it into protect mode) EDIT ^That part of this comment was made at around the 6 minute mark in the video. Now I'm at the 25 minute mark and I have a good idea of what happened in this video. The 24 pin power cable was loose enough that some of the pins weren't connected at all, so when you pressed the power button the PSU read it as a catastrophic fault and went into "protect mode." (as mentioned above protect mode makes the PSU non responsive to the power button) While in protection mode you then try to power it back on... Non responsive. So you start trouble shooting. You home in on the issue. (the 24 pin that wasn't plugged in all the way) You plug that badboy back in and try to power it back on again. Once again, no response. Right here, switching the PSU switch off or unplugging the power cable, pressing the PC power button a few times, then plugging it back in and powering the PC on would have likely gotten the PC back up and running. They should really make protection mode more obvious on PSUs. Like add a buzzer or make the led on the back flash like a debug LED.... SOMETHING! Anyway. Amazing work as always!
It really is the worst though when you fix something but can't replicate what caused the issue to begin with.
Always a good friday when there's a new fix or flop.
there is still a possibility one of the cables is faulty "wackelkontakt" in german (loose contact), within the cable
is there a reason the fix or flops aren't seasoned/named anymore?
I noticed he adjusted the 24-pin in the PSU with the system still plugged in and on, while it was still in "protect mode." You have to power cycle and drain the power out of the capacitors before trying again, so when he swapped the PSU, it worked as it had time to drain. I had the exact same issue with my PSU.
the act of moving cables around, reseating, disconnecting, reconnecting impacted what the issue was. there was a short somewhere in the cable runs that was triggering the PSU safety trip. whether it was the rats nest in the back or any of the unsecured connectors, undoing the cable mess and reconnecting everything removed the short (pinched or twisted wire, two gold contacts crossed from poor seating, etc). manage your cables people
This system was a bit difficult to diagnose. Those fan hubs can be a real pain.
Home from work, having had dinner, and a new episode of Fix or Flop. Can't get any better than this. 👍
Nice Mullet Greg.....
Happy Fix or Flop Friday!!! This is week #3 of this!!!
I've got an interesting one for you that was happening to my wife's PC. A couple of weeks ago she started noticing that her PC was powered off instead of asleep when she'd go to use it, looking through Event Viewer as doing some debugging of the kernel dump files told me it was throwing an error when trying to sleep, and more specifically it was tied to the USB driver. Did the usual diags and making sure everything was up to date, most of the time it would go to sleep and wake up fine during the day but it was usually in the morning that she'd find it powered off. Turns out it was caused by her Garmin watch that she has plugged into one of the USB ports to charge and sync/update it. Since disconnecting it her PC has gone back to being 100% stable.
Modular psus do give us better cable management but can cause such issues. Troubleshooted my pc once for hours to find out that one of the 24 pin connectors on antec HCG was not seated properly one day.
power arcing can cause a problem and the motherboard protecting the pc.
OK, so this is a freaky coincidence! I was having an issue with a PC, after checking the PSU, the 12vHP cable was slightly off. I was in the same scenario, and tried restarting the PC and nothing happened. The only difference in our cases, from what I saw in the video, is that I turned off the psu and turned it back on and then tried booting once more and it did. Every case is different, just bringing what I came up across literally 4 days ago! Cheers, Greg!
Once you already ran the psu with the 24 pin partially unplugged the psu most likely went into a protective mode the issue is you didn’t unplug the psu after you reseated the 24 pin
You should never check for loose cables or cards with the power cord plugged , chk and than plug in .