I feel like they are talking about like actually being a disabled person instead of how impacted they are I do not know however because I have not seen people actually making this claim or their tone. So they very well might've been saying everyone is equally impacted (which isn't right)
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pietrawhisper218ย months, 3ย weeks ago
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tony_johnson8ย months, 3ย weeks ago
I also find it worrying when someone is more disabled and then non disabled folks use that as a way to justify why mid or low supports needs disabled folks donโt deserve their support. I wouldnโt say that everyone is equally disabled but rather everyone equally needs unconditional support, whatever that support may look like for each person.
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lucieadam198ย months, 3ย weeks ago
It has to be BOTH - that's what exhausts me about people. Some folks hear 'hierarchy is bad' and boil it down to 'were all equal' instead of letting the nuances exist. Binaries help no one and this isn't a competition!
steven.gonzalez8ย months, 3ย weeks ago
Fr! Im autistic and i use the disabled bathroom due to sensory issues but i would totally use a different bathroom instead so that someone more visibly disabled, like someone with a mobility aid, could use it! Because even though a disabled bathroom is more comfortable for me, i can physically use a non disabled bathroom!
luisquesada5248ย months, 4ย weeks ago
Thank you, I have multiple disabilities and I was friends with somebody who had an accident that caused disabled when she was young (has difficulty moving her left arm). It would make me upset when she would try and do the "we are in this together" and "My disability never stops me so you shouldn't let it stop you!" When I can't do many many of the things I once could, nor can I do a lot of the things I once dreamed.
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danielleadams3408ย months, 4ย weeks ago
I have ADHD and I literally have to tell people or else they donโt get why I, for instance, canโt be quiet for more than a minute and stuff
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nicholas_smith8ย months, 4ย weeks ago
I like how you explained this. At first, I disagreed a bit because I saw being disabled as something you are at a particular time, or are not at a particular time. But we are actually very much on the same page, english just got in the way because the way it was phrased does sound odd to me, and being more impacted or less impacted by a disability does make sense to me.
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kristopherhart2948ย months, 4ย weeks ago
I like high and low needs criteria, mainly bc itโs helped me navigate professional spaces. Explaining that my need for support is quite low, but that my low need for support does not make me any less disabled, has been a great way to explain to those who have never lived with a disability without them infantilizing me for needing help on certain tasks. The most common task I need help with, professionally, is developing talking points for new clients I havenโt met. Without the research, I donโt think of what to ask clients whom I havenโt met or strategized with. Support from coworkers to create and rehearse those first meetings helps me being successful in all avenues of my job.
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amanda.matthews9ย months ago
yes!! i have hEDS, adhd, anxiety, and ocd, and i know that there are _tons_ of people in the disabled community who are far more disabled than me. i donโt need disability aids or other accommodations as much as a lot other people do. of course, that doesnโt mean i donโt deserve them or shouldnโt have them (and if anyone ever tries to tell you anything like that, do NOT interact with themโthatโs bullshit!), but i donโt need, for example, a wheelchair, or to do virtual school, etc etc. iโm less disabled than a lot of people, and thatโs perfectly fine.
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beth_burton9ย months ago
My dumbass was confused for a second but then it hit me like yeah, sayin' or tryin' to make it borderline a competition can just like, ensure that folks who really need help aren't because of either spite or just someone tryin' to compare their "not that bad" experience to another. Like, as an example, what if someone born without legs gets told they shouldn't complain because "at least they have arms"? Somethin' like that anyways. Ignore me though, I'm just a dumbass tryin' to convey my understandin' of this lol
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stรฉphane.perrin9ย months ago
As a physically disabled person, I can do most things. I can walk, but not run or jump. Some people canโt walk at all and some can do a little. It really depends on your disability and yes, people should be treated equal but that doesnโt mean that we have to literally treat people equally. Same with visible and non visible disabilities. Itโs a spectrum.
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jamesrune249ย months ago
Whenever I talk about safety over sensory issues people always mention that some people cannot deal with those things even if life and death are on the line. Then I have to sit there like that was the point of me bringing it up?? Yeah Iโm mentioning it because itโs a problem.
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victoire.lucas9ย months ago
this. i have misophonia that impacts my life soooo much. my family is fond of it either, giving no support and making me sound like a 2 year old. i haven't been to a therapist yet but i dont think i will be anytime soon. this causes me to stay away from my friends in lunch or food situations because it makes me feel super uncomfortable and sick. EVERYONE says "its just an annoyance" even tho ive quickly explained multiple times what it is. definition: neurophysiological disorder where your brain fails to filter out everyday noises. (fans/ac, chewing is a huge one, scraping, scratching, etc) it has SO MANY triggers and still goes unrecognized.
ross_shepherd9ย months ago
So true! My whole polycule is varying levels of disabled- but only 2/4 of us can hold a job. I am relatively low support needs outside of a few specific instances, where my partners are medium to high support needs. Our experiences are fundamentally different! I don't think the "more or less disabled" goes strictly along disability lines (we're all autistic, one of my partners is schizophrenic and I'm bipolar w a mild spinal injury), because it really impacts everyone differently, but some just are more profound than others. I'm the least impacted by my disabilities, at least with the support I'm receiving, despite having "more" than most of the others. I think that's what some people forget- one single disability can be REALLY disabling, multiple can intersect in a way that with support it's not as much noticed.
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kamilly_sousa9ย months, 1ย week ago
People can be more and/or less disabled over time too! Like even varying day to day!
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sรฉbastienraven359ย months, 1ย week ago
But also, the fact an autistic person like me can also have Ehlers-Danlos already makes them MORE disabled than me. It's really simple, not disrespectful and pretty obvious. They may share my disability, but they have another one that makes it even harder to deal with the stuff I deal with. It's not really that hard to understand this concept, I hate how people either deny we're disabled or claim we're as disabled as other disabilities. No dude, there is a spectrum.
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suzanneshadow599ย months, 1ย week ago
Someone in my class said everyone has ADHD and that mental disabilities are fake can u pls break into my classroom like Supernanny and tell him that is VERY untrue ๐ญ
Ur hair reminds me of strawberries :D so cute :3
I feel like they are talking about like actually being a disabled person instead of how impacted they are I do not know however because I have not seen people actually making this claim or their tone. So they very well might've been saying everyone is equally impacted (which isn't right)
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I also find it worrying when someone is more disabled and then non disabled folks use that as a way to justify why mid or low supports needs disabled folks donโt deserve their support. I wouldnโt say that everyone is equally disabled but rather everyone equally needs unconditional support, whatever that support may look like for each person.
It has to be BOTH - that's what exhausts me about people. Some folks hear 'hierarchy is bad' and boil it down to 'were all equal' instead of letting the nuances exist. Binaries help no one and this isn't a competition!
Fr! Im autistic and i use the disabled bathroom due to sensory issues but i would totally use a different bathroom instead so that someone more visibly disabled, like someone with a mobility aid, could use it! Because even though a disabled bathroom is more comfortable for me, i can physically use a non disabled bathroom!
Thank you, I have multiple disabilities and I was friends with somebody who had an accident that caused disabled when she was young (has difficulty moving her left arm). It would make me upset when she would try and do the "we are in this together" and "My disability never stops me so you shouldn't let it stop you!" When I can't do many many of the things I once could, nor can I do a lot of the things I once dreamed.
I have ADHD and I literally have to tell people or else they donโt get why I, for instance, canโt be quiet for more than a minute and stuff
I like how you explained this. At first, I disagreed a bit because I saw being disabled as something you are at a particular time, or are not at a particular time. But we are actually very much on the same page, english just got in the way because the way it was phrased does sound odd to me, and being more impacted or less impacted by a disability does make sense to me.
I like high and low needs criteria, mainly bc itโs helped me navigate professional spaces. Explaining that my need for support is quite low, but that my low need for support does not make me any less disabled, has been a great way to explain to those who have never lived with a disability without them infantilizing me for needing help on certain tasks. The most common task I need help with, professionally, is developing talking points for new clients I havenโt met. Without the research, I donโt think of what to ask clients whom I havenโt met or strategized with. Support from coworkers to create and rehearse those first meetings helps me being successful in all avenues of my job.
yes!! i have hEDS, adhd, anxiety, and ocd, and i know that there are _tons_ of people in the disabled community who are far more disabled than me. i donโt need disability aids or other accommodations as much as a lot other people do. of course, that doesnโt mean i donโt deserve them or shouldnโt have them (and if anyone ever tries to tell you anything like that, do NOT interact with themโthatโs bullshit!), but i donโt need, for example, a wheelchair, or to do virtual school, etc etc. iโm less disabled than a lot of people, and thatโs perfectly fine.
My dumbass was confused for a second but then it hit me like yeah, sayin' or tryin' to make it borderline a competition can just like, ensure that folks who really need help aren't because of either spite or just someone tryin' to compare their "not that bad" experience to another. Like, as an example, what if someone born without legs gets told they shouldn't complain because "at least they have arms"? Somethin' like that anyways. Ignore me though, I'm just a dumbass tryin' to convey my understandin' of this lol
As a physically disabled person, I can do most things. I can walk, but not run or jump. Some people canโt walk at all and some can do a little. It really depends on your disability and yes, people should be treated equal but that doesnโt mean that we have to literally treat people equally. Same with visible and non visible disabilities. Itโs a spectrum.
Whenever I talk about safety over sensory issues people always mention that some people cannot deal with those things even if life and death are on the line. Then I have to sit there like that was the point of me bringing it up?? Yeah Iโm mentioning it because itโs a problem.
this. i have misophonia that impacts my life soooo much. my family is fond of it either, giving no support and making me sound like a 2 year old. i haven't been to a therapist yet but i dont think i will be anytime soon. this causes me to stay away from my friends in lunch or food situations because it makes me feel super uncomfortable and sick. EVERYONE says "its just an annoyance" even tho ive quickly explained multiple times what it is. definition: neurophysiological disorder where your brain fails to filter out everyday noises. (fans/ac, chewing is a huge one, scraping, scratching, etc) it has SO MANY triggers and still goes unrecognized.
So true! My whole polycule is varying levels of disabled- but only 2/4 of us can hold a job. I am relatively low support needs outside of a few specific instances, where my partners are medium to high support needs. Our experiences are fundamentally different! I don't think the "more or less disabled" goes strictly along disability lines (we're all autistic, one of my partners is schizophrenic and I'm bipolar w a mild spinal injury), because it really impacts everyone differently, but some just are more profound than others. I'm the least impacted by my disabilities, at least with the support I'm receiving, despite having "more" than most of the others. I think that's what some people forget- one single disability can be REALLY disabling, multiple can intersect in a way that with support it's not as much noticed.
People can be more and/or less disabled over time too! Like even varying day to day!
But also, the fact an autistic person like me can also have Ehlers-Danlos already makes them MORE disabled than me. It's really simple, not disrespectful and pretty obvious. They may share my disability, but they have another one that makes it even harder to deal with the stuff I deal with. It's not really that hard to understand this concept, I hate how people either deny we're disabled or claim we're as disabled as other disabilities. No dude, there is a spectrum.
Someone in my class said everyone has ADHD and that mental disabilities are fake can u pls break into my classroom like Supernanny and tell him that is VERY untrue ๐ญ
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